Messy Liberation
The perfectmessy space
A podcast and community for people unlearning capitalism, out loud, together.
Weekly conversations about power, language, capitalism, accountability, and what it actually looks like to live your values — hosted by Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown.
Unlearn in community, not alone
A year-round home for anyone on the unlearning journey. Sliding-scale pricing, rolling enrollment, and a weekly rhythm of Learning, Author, Community, and Affinity weeks.
Listen and learn in public
Weekly conversations about power, language, capitalism, accountability, and what it actually looks like to live your values.
This podcast is for anyone unlearning the systems we were handed — not just coaches.
Led by Becky & Taina
Not just hosts
We’re coaches and facilitators building a practice of liberation that’s honest about power, harm, and capacity — without pretending we can opt out of the system we’re inside.
“The system is not broken, it’s working exactly as designed.”
— Becky Mollenkamp
“You have to actively give up a part of your humanity in order to dehumanize someone else.”
— Taina Brown
“It’s not just the things you do, but it’s also the things that you don’t do — the doors that you choose to walk out of, the relationships that you choose to cut off. That’s all part of legacy.”
— Taina Brown
“It’s easy to stand up and speak out when there’s nothing at risk. The real test of values is when times are challenging and you have something to lose.”
— Becky Mollenkamp
“Anger is loaded with information and energy.”
— Taina Brown
A home for the unlearning journey
The alonetogether way to unlearn
The Messy Liberation Circle is a year-round community for anyone doing this work — coaches, organizers, activists, and everyone still figuring out their politics. Open enrollment. Sliding-scale pricing. No cohort to wait for.
Learning Week
Smaller-group discussion of an article or short piece, matched to where your Circle is in the journey — plus co-reading time, so you’re not processing it alone at 11pm.
Community Week
The fun week. Trivia, tier lists, “would you rather,” games, and creative hangouts like craft or paint-and-chat. This is where we laugh and just be together.
Affinity Week
Space with people who share your identity — Black, white, POC, LGBTQ+, and others — to talk through what’s happening in the world with people who just get it.
Okay, now the podcast stuff.
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Latest episode
Our favorite episodes
A starter guide for people new to the show who want to understand what it’s all about.
Problematic Potter
Loving something doesn’t mean ignoring its harm.
Everyday Resistance
Burnout isn’t a requirement for resistance.
The Cult of America
A hard look at nationalism and protecting power.
Stay messy
The hustle-yhuman way to stay in the loop
New episodes, Circle updates, and live events — sent like a human wrote it.