The people behind the mess

It started as a strategyfriendship

Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown met on Instagram, spent time in community together, and realized they genuinely loved talking about anything and everything — business, power, culture, clients, capitalism, capacity, what was working, what wasn’t.

Those conversations were full of laughter, disagreement, learning, and relief. They were the kind of conversations that leave you thinking, “I wish more people could hear this.”

A cheers toast

Why we made this

So we made an excuse to have more of them.

The podcast launched in June 2024 with no growth plan, no metrics obsession, and no interest in chasing downloads. The goal was simple: talk honestly. Learn in public. See what happens.

We don’t have the answers. We do have a commitment to keep learning out loud — together.

Messy Liberation community

Slow growth on purpose

We’re not trying to “hack” anything. We’re trying to build something real.

Capacity matters

We release episodes most Mondays — and we also take days off when we need them.

Shared workload

We split the work, we communicate, and we actually like being in business together.

Friendship first

We were friends before we were business partners. That hasn’t changed, and it never will.

From conversations to community

The Circle

Over time, something became clear: the conversations didn’t just belong in headphones. They needed a room.

There was a gap — for anyone who cares about equity and wants their life and work to reflect liberatory principles. Most spaces felt either “girl boss” hustle culture or overly polished neutrality. Very few felt grounded, political, relational, and human.

So the Messy Liberation Circle was born — a year-round community open to anyone doing this work, with sliding-scale pricing and rolling enrollment.

The podcast is for anyone who wants to be challenged to think about the world in more liberatory ways. The Circle is for anyone who wants to practice that together.

How we work together

Working together is part of the point. We share the workload, we honor capacity, and we record when it feels right. (Usually Mondays. Sometimes we take a breath. That’s the whole vibe.)

  • Becky brings Golden Retriever energy — excitement, big ideas, let’s try it, let’s build it, let’s say the thing.
  • Taina brings thoughtfulness and sustainability — what’s aligned, what’s ethical, what can we actually maintain without burning out.
  • Together, we balance each other — and we actually enjoy being in business together.
Becky Mollenkamp and Taina Brown

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